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Martin Ward

Are you talking about communism on the Russian model or the Chinese model? Clearly the former didn't work because, among other things it suppresed the entrepreneurial spirit which kept the standard of living for the masses at an abysmal level.

Stuart

Hi Martin,
We are (were) talking about communism on neither the Chinese nor the Russian model, but, if you like, on Marx's model: a system of society based on the free association of producers where each is free to give according to ability and take according to need. Cheers

Martin Ward

It sounds idyllic, a kind of altruistic Utopia but clearly remains in the world of fantasy or cloud-cuckoo-land. There is nothing wrong with fantasy as long as you recognise it as that. Trying to import such ideas into real life will only lead to disappointment and frustration.

Stuart

It's easy to imagine a feudal peasant saying the same thing about a world of free wage labourers, industrial production and globalised trade. A map without utopia on it isn't even worth looking at.

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